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Oi. Have a look, you may be able to help - or not.

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Alan H

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 11:25 pm    Post subject: Oi. Have a look, you may be able to help - or not.  Reply with quote

I've been in contact with the powers that be, and if the folks that can use the forum, can't be bothered, then it'll be lost.
That means if you can't be arsed, everyone loses. So perhaps if folks can suggest what they want on here - that means answers as well as questions - then we can carry on. Otherwise..........
Personally, I don't do faceiron or any of the so-called social sites, and have no intention of doing so. Maybe as I'm considered ancient, I'm not so social - or sociable - nowadays, I dunno.
Perhaps if people can get better info for repairs/info/whatever elsewhere, than please post in the relevant forum or start a thread and if nothing else we can share information elsewhere.
Please help to keep the forum active - after all, it's up to us, the members to put in as well as expect to take out.
What do you want - or need?
Less forae? Different leads? Other starters?
Gizza clue and we can move forward.
I realize that you believe that you understood what you thought I said.
But I'm quite certain that what you thought you understood wasn't what I actually meant.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You do realise you are talking to an empty space here Alan ?  Wink  Laughing

Aside from two old guys that dont or can't use Facebook and me that does but gets bored easily, only tumbleweeds blow through here.

FFS get the powers that be to bring the website and forum kicking and screaming into the 21st century.  At the mo' - its  not even in the dark ages.

Still at least this negative activity has given a brief flash of life back to the arthritic old site - even if there are only 4 peeps total, taking part

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 11:32 am    Post subject: VJMC Forum Reply with quote

The committee agreed to a forum in 2010. It was an uphill battle. No one was keen so I took it it on.

I am no expert as you have succinctly put. But I volunteered. Thank you for your kind words.

But, I argued for it and you all got what you wanted.

It had to be a no-cost option hence using the free myfastforum. I argued again to get the forum opened beyond technical. I won again.

Because of the nature of getting this forum up, it was woefully under-utilised. But over the next few years, there was more confidence in having a forum. To that end, I put to the committee that social media was the next step. It was agreed.

Facebook was slow to start but it now the most utilised of social media for the club. Many have left the forum for social media. Hence theres going to be no investment in time or anything else for the 6 active users.

It is dated, old-hat, that was one of the reasons to terminate it. It has served its purpose.

The colours yep, old hat but the choice is somewhat limited in a free forum. It was supposed to be a light orange to reflect club colours of 8 years ago.

HootOwl, I'm the other extreme from you. Where I see improvement can be made, I offer help where I can rather than slagging someone off - who incidently fought hard to even get this off the ground. I note that your career is related to websites. Why not offer something constructive?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dude, I built and run a free hosted forum. I set it up on a wet Sunday afternoon a few years back when I was bored, as there was nothing in the UK for the bike I was interested in.  

Now, if you enter (the bike model) and the word forum into Google - it comes up as the number 1 hit.  It is not amazing, but I do freshen it up regularly and I listen to what the guys want and ask for.  99.9% of the time, even on the free hosting software I can accommodate what they want.

It gets plenty of activity, and I also set up and run a Facebook page that feeds to and from the forum as well. Members can use one, the other or both. Its free .... I would move it to a paid host, but really there is no need. If the company ever folds, I guess I will start it all again on a Vb host or similar. Because it is a free host, it carries adverts. Those I can either pay to remove ( a few quid per month) but I run ad blocker software on my own machines, so they dont niggle me. They dont seem to bother other guys either, but they are removable being the point.

It is not hard to do and outside of the initial setup time, needs almost zero maintenance.

I also ran an uber busy vBulletin forum that ended up hosted overseas because we kept gobbling up all the providers bandwidth on each server we used in the UK.

We went over 25,000 regular users. That was built from an initial free website that had around 25 members. It took 10 years, but it came on.

Eventually, we took it down after we were hacked, despite a very effective security net and the database was so corrupted that we (we were a "we" by this time) just could not put it back as it was - so it moved to Facebook.

If a forum needs help, then ASK for help. I don't do the politically correct club stuff and attend meetings at the other end of the country with other old farts submitting written requests, voting on proposals, thinking about it for a month and coming to the conclusions that could and should have been reached even before the question was  even asked.
I take the if its broken, fix it or walk away approach.
I always have helped out and always will help out, but if it is not apparent who is whom, it's difficult.

If this colour is meant to be orange - but comes out brown - change the damned thing to one that works and looks right. The hell with the club colours - they are not appearing properly anyway. If the text on the main website is not justifying correctly (and it isn't) - correct it or remove it, don't just leave it looking a disaster.

Its like the supermarket. If it's not appealing and fresh - it gets no attention. Freshen it up, change it round and relaunch it.

Has anyone considered building a parallel forum site, even on free hosting if needs be which could be set up and then this one could be migrated over or shut down if the software here is poor ?

It would be seamlessly replaced with a new site.  From what I see of the clubs finances though, there should be no need for free hosting or penny pinching web building. It seems to be a cash rich setup. If that's all the interest they have in their online appearance though, then que sera,  lets go with what there is...

The above would not sort the main website of course. That still needs a good dose of looking at.

Look right back to my very first  introduction post on here - there is an explanation of what I do for a living and an offer to help in that. No one came back on it, so don't slate me for not stepping up to the plate.
phpBB forum software I have not used, I prefer Vbulletin, but it cannot be vastly different I would not think.

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